What’s Your Reponse to “Women Against Feminism”? Here’sMine…

A young friend of my son’s, (who I’m quite fond of) recently called my attention to a movement called “Women Against Feminism” via Facebook. It had me so worked up, that I couldn’t sleep. These young women are posting selfies on a FB site, stating why they “don’t need feminism!”

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I feel compelled to point out the fact that had it not been for feminism no one would care what these women had to say about anything. As frustrating as I find some of these women’s statements, I have no desire to denigrate them or engage in a dissing contest to bash them. Women are already too polarized. After all, we have alot in common. Like the fact that we all have vaginas! That being said…

My view on feminism is one that is often overlooked. It has always been my position that men cannot possibly be liberated until women become liberated. Providing women with the same opportunities as men, diminishes their burden to be the breadwinner, the decision-maker and the the disciplinarian.

Allow me to illustrate with the following:

My son’s friends have frequently asked if the incidents of sexual harassment on “Mad Men” are exaggerated.  I didn’t enter the workforce until 1979, These were some of my experiences

My first job was in the contract furniture industry with high end designers and manufacturers. Sexual harassment was a daily occurrence.

• As a redhead,  I was frequently asked by my bosses about the color of my pubic hair. When a new client came to visit, they would encourage him to ask, saying  “She won’t tell us!” Then to make matters worse, one of the women designers (another redhead ) encouraged me to answer, as she did. I declined.

• On days when I didn’t have time to finish putting on makeup, I was invariably told by my boss “Before you sit down, go put on your face. Don’t come to work without it!”

• Just prior to taking my vacation, I had reported my boss to the owner.He intentionally left out the fact that teh 125 desks that were ordered would never make the client’s new office move in date as the company was on strike. His lies caused the office manager, a woman, to be fired from her job.  I was told to take my vacation and it would e handled. It was. I arrived home to a letter stating I had been terminated.

• In my efforts to get paid my commission, I contacted my first client for his help with documentation of my sale. He agreed to help me, provided I had sex with him. I declined, forfeiting the commission. I considered telling his lovely wife, but assumed this wasn’t his first time at the rodeo.

My next job was at a North Michigan Avenue law firm.

• One morning my boss stopped by my apartment for a cup of coffee before work. (So I thought). I came out of my bathroom to find him completely naked on my sofa bed. When I freaked out, he laughed at my naïveté as he got dressed. I was fired that afternoon. He was the uncle of a close friend from college. So I didn’t pursue it.

So, yes. I do know something about sexual harassment in the workplace. But that’s not what this is about.

My parents enjoyed an unusually happy marriage, having raised six children, they loved and supported one another to the very end of their lives. As a result of having given birth to six kids, Mom had acquired a strong feminist belief in women’s reproductive rights and rights in general over the years. She was successful in passing her views on to me. So when I was in college, and needed a quick credit to graduate, I chose a course on women and equality, thinking it would be a “no-brainer”.

We had a sociologist as guest speaker one day. She reported that gender studies of newborns in hospitals revealed that mothers were allowed access to, and to hold their female children more frequently and for longer periods of time, then their male counterparts. (Hopefully this is no longer the case. Particularly considering at birth, boys are more fragile than girls). The inequality of this broke my heart!

Let’s take a moment to explore gender roles of men and women in pop culture of the 1950s and 60s.leave-it-to-beaver-house

My favorite example is Ward and June Cleaver.(Leave it to Beaver) June basically lives in the kitchen gadding about all day in heels, a string of pearls, and a dress, waiting for Ward to come home from work to punish the children. (I wonder how many times these words were uttered “Wait til your father gets home!”, In 1950s and 60s sitcoms…)


Ward, on the other hand, is confined to the role of breadwinner and disciplinarian. He puts in a long day at work to come home to find dinner on the table and deal with whatever dilemma his boys were faced with that day. (Because clearly, mom is incapable of handling these many responsibilities?)

In that vein, how many movies and tv shows have told young men and little boys that they were to “be the man of the house until I return” (from battle, work or just vacation.)

I’m not sure what’s worse in that scenario. The idea that a child should take on the role of an adult male in his father’s absence or the suggestion that mother is so inept, (by virtue of the fact that she’s a mere woman) that it is necessary for a child to step in and take the reins  until dad’s return.

Who exactly wins in this scenario? Nobody!

I ask you to consider the fragility of males.

•*From fetal to tomb, males die more rapidly and at a greater rate than females.
*While more boys are born every year, more start dying shortly thereafter.
*Premature girls have significantly higher survival rates than boys.
*Women consistently outlive men in every age cohort.

*Men are 4 times more likely to commit suicide than women.  “In the past decade, there has been a substantial increase in suicide in men between the ages of 35 and 64. There was a 28% increase overall.

*Men between the ages of 50 and 59 had a 40% increase.” (Psychology Today) That’s a staggering statistic!

It is believed, this increase is directly relative to financial pressures brought on by a worldwide recession. Forcing men into the role of “breadwinner” doesn’t seem to be working out very well. Does it?

What a surprise to learn that the second primary cause is the use of opiates, medications (legal or otherwise), designed to escape feeling! Heroin use is even on the rise. rolling-stone-philip-seymour-hoffman Heath ledger dies


Case in point, the untimely demise of Philip Seymour Hoffman and Heath Ledger… was it really suicide? Or an accidental overdose? While Michael Jackson’s death was clearly the fault of his doctor’s negligence, why was he addicted to these meds in the first place? Clearly his father fit the stereotypical role of disciplinarian. How did that work out?


While women may suffer from depression at a higher rate than men, depression is the cause of 90% of suicides. Taking this into consideration, one can’t help but wonder how often men seek help for depression and anxiety. Hmmm… Could it be that admitting to any psychological fragility makes a man feel  less masculine?

*“Drug and alcohol addiction are more prevalent among men than women.”

According to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, men are twice as likely as women to meet the criteria for drug addiction in their lifetime (though rates of prescription drug abuse are about equal). The disparity appears to be even greater for alcohol abuse, with men struggling at 3 times the rate of women.” David Sack M.D.

In addition, because our brain function is so dynamically different, infusing women into higher executive level positions can only serve to enhance society as a whole. Vive La Difference!

This is evidenced by the international and revolutionary impact made by Women Against Breast Cancer, on fundraising. The fundraising model, created by these women who were on a mission to beat this disease, has been copied by AIDS and every imaginable form of cause fundraising..

In 2013, women held only 14.6% of the executive officer positions in Fortune 500 companies. My question is why? Evidently the 77% wage gap is a myth based on lousy data. It’s more like 84 % and that narrows significantly with recent college grads, to 92%.

Before quitting my business, I can’t tell you how many clients and vendors complained of staff layoffs, increasing the workload of the remaining staff. Frankly, women are better multi-taskers and as such, are more likely to succeed when dumped with extra work. Which may explain the recent narrowing of the gap. However, it does not account for the lack of women’s presence in high level executive positions.

45% of lawyers are women, only 19% are actual partners.

17% of the members of Congress are women. Yet women comprise 50.8% of the population. Whatever happened to “no taxation without representation”?

The US ranks number 69 among countries with the highest percentage of women in government. Countries that have a higher percentage of women include Tajikistan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Uganda!

Infanticide of female children still occurs in India and China. As tragic and horrific as this is, it is usually born of an economic survival strategy. In these cultures, boys are far more likely to be integrated into the workforce, enabling them to contribute economically to the family structure.

I could go on and on with statistics about the gender gap. There’s no question but that it exists. The real question, is why?

With the tremendous surge in technology and its role in our culture, life is moving at a far more rapid pace than it did in the 1950s and 60s.

One in four women are taking mental health medications. The number of men using mental health medications rose 43% from the year 2001 to 2010. Where are we headed at this rate?

This should be a cause for action. The only viable solution I can see is to bridge the gender gap by relieving pressure from men and allowing women greater  latitude in the managing of our collective lives.

If anyone thinks that feminism hasn’t effected change, please check out this little video I’ve created…

If you have an opinion, by all means EXPRESS IT HERE! Tomorrow I will post my “Selfie” and my “I NEED FEMINISM BECAUSE…statement. (I can’t use  my camera at the moment. So it will be tomorrow.)

This movement is building steam. So if you’re feeling so inclined, PLEASE ADD YOUR SELFIE TO THE MIX! You don;t have to be a female either!!!!

Thanks for reading, commenting and sharing!





Published by: JB chants

I was contacted by OkCupid a month after signing up, telling me I was in the top 5% response rate and asking my secret. I was stunned. I was in my 50's! Beats me! It's not as though I posted racy photos or I was plagued by blinding beauty! However it served it's purpose,in terms of finding dates,but finding a mate? Not so much. Along the way, I had some pretty nutty encounters, some more lethal than others. While my blog started as a retelling of these amorous tales, it's morphed into a myriad of stories, including many from my time on the planet. They range from working with the amazing Henry Winkler, auditioning for Nadia Boulanger, an attempted assault by one of Al Capone's retired former henchmen, and offering a homeless man (who was also a convicted murderer) a place to stay for the night. While most of this is older material but I'm considering penning epilogues or postmortems from my post pandemic, post #metoo perspective, as well as sharing more. So many stories to tell! Thanks for stopping by! Cheers!

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27 thoughts on “What’s Your Reponse to “Women Against Feminism”? Here’sMine…”

  1. This a thousand times over yes.

    I still get sexually harassed at work, my boss thinks that because I’m a woman I’m in capable of adding to 10, let alone figuring out how to do a spreadsheet, sending an email or just my normal job. He feels the urge to breathe in my ear while I go about my business and then gets uppity when I snap at him.

    I’ve been told that I don’t “dress” right because I wear checkered pants and button up tops instead of skirts and blouse and I don’t have my hair out every day nor do I wear make up. I have facial piercings and tattoo’s instead, yet somehow still manage to do my job plus the job of a few other’s because they are lazy shits.

    I saw that facebook page and tumblr page and lost my shit. All over my facebook to be fair. Yes they have the right to their opinion but for the love of all things intelligent, get your facts straight before you put your face behind a sign that makes you look like an ill-informed twat.

    And there I’ll end my rant. Thank you for posting this Julie.

    S x

    1. It’s mind blowing to learn that you are subject to that level of sexual harassment! I think sexual harassment in the workplace had a lot to do with why I started my own business. But I also don’t fit well within the corporate structure cuz I have a tendency to say what I think and it gets me in trouble.

      As for these women, I created this video because it’s staggering to me how misinformed they are. Until Mad Men came on the scene I had no idea how pragmatic so many young women are. I also think with the economy being so lousy, survival surpasses sexism in a list of priorities.

      You know me well enough by now showering to know that I am submitting a different video once I get my recording straight. It’s in 4:4 time, potentially little longer and has more images. Did you check out this video? I’m curious.
      Thank you for re blogging! !! Xoxo

      1. Yup, I checked out the video, good job on the mash up 🙂 And I enjoyed the music too!

        I know, to think in this day and age that I am subject to it makes my skin crawl. But I work in a male dominated field. I either suck it up or I find a new job. Right now I’m just sucking it up because this pays really well and it’s sufferable.

        I just hope that one day they don’t have to be in a position that shows them how wrong they actually are. I really do.

      2. I think the music in that one is the old recording grin the 60’s . My track is messed up. On my way now to go re record it. If you feel like posting a selfie, PLEASE DO!

      3. Do. I only link my blog posts to tumblr. So I don’t really have anything else on there!

      4. Yes, go to your dashboard and choose the sharing tab.

        You can link to all social media. Mine posts to tumblr, twitter and g+ when I post a new post 🙂

  2. Reblogged this on Spankalicious and commented:
    I couldn’t have said this better myself.

    Feminism, anti-feminism, whatever your beliefs I don’t think our fight is over. Not by a long shot.

    I did see an interesting meme today – here it is below:

    1. Thank you! I’m grateful that Mad Men is shining a light on the subject. I’m sorry to hear you were sexually harassed at work. That brings out a bit of rage in me! I welts find it difficult to not strike back, either in stelth or outwardly. Were you able to? Or did you just quit?

      1. Thank you for your support 🙂

        I had to leave in the end, not because of that in particular but for other reasons. My Head of Department really hated me for no other reason that I can see but that I didn’t fawn on him and I wasn’t sycophantic like one female co-worker did. He disliked another of my foreign female co-workers but she was safe because she wasn’t in his department, and he didn’t care about the others for the same reason.
        It is infuriating, but it’s not at all a bad thing that I had to leave though, because it enabled me to get out of an environment where in spite of reporting a number of incidents to my boss, no warnings were ever given and unprofessional behaviour continued.

        I wrote about it more in detail here: http://throughthelookingglassanddowntherabbithole.com/2013/12/31/2013-my-year-in-review/

      2. I hope you’ll consider posting a selfie on here. I haven’t shared it anywhere yet because I’m going to fix the video first. But then I an putting it anywhere and everywhere imaginable! I have no idea that sexual harassment was still happening at the same level. But I became an entrepreneur to avoid sexual harassment. I suspect the lousy worldwide economy has turned women into more of a “whipping girl” then previously. I’m not sure. It doesn’t really matter. All I know is, I want is to have a voice! Thanks for sharing your story.

  3. I hate seeing it as well and the only thing kind of positive coming out of it is an increase of dialogue. The anti- movement is truly infuriating, especially, from the perspectives of prepubescent teens that haven’t a clue.

    1. I agree that it creates dialogue, which is always good. So would you be willing to post a selfie? I think our boxes voices need to be heard! The irony to me is, those girls were clearly raised to believe that feminism is a bad thing. Once they’ve experienced enough sexism, they’re likely to change their minds. I’m hoping to get the change started now. I hate to see women sniping at women! Particululary considering that we are such a powerful collective. I believe it’s one of the reasons some men don’t want us to share ideas abs want us barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen.

      1. We should start an anti- to the anti- movement 🙂 “I don’t need anti-feminism because I have become complacent towards cat-calling and have really begun to enjoy it.”

  4. Great article and some very worrying statistics. Sorry to hear about all of your horrible work experiences – it sounded like a total nightmare. I’ve only had one experience like that – my boss was a nasty piece of work who seemed to hate women. Every day, one girl or another would be crying because of something he’d said to them. Most ended up quitting. I reported him 😉 He lost his position on the board and about 80,000 a year 🙂

      1. Absolutely. I’ve had multiple conversations with some women who refer to themselves as ladies against feminism. Very interesting. I think I’m going to blog about the responses I received

      2. Women against feminism is like men against penis 😉 Like you say, if it weren’t for feminism, nobody would even give a damn what we think!

  5. I believe that the Women Against Feminism isn’t so much denouncing the effort to bring gender equality, but some of the negative misconceptions that the word “Feminist/Feminism” brings about. Of course with all social movements, it begins to form subcultures and new ideas come forward. Some prominent feminists have recieved backlash for promoting ideas in the name of encouraging equality that were more male-oppressive than female-empowering. It seems this is the sort of thing Women Against Feminism tries to correct. Feminism and gender-equality is an amazing movement and absolutely necessary, and will always have my support.

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